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| January 2, 2011 at 8:52 am #7764 | |
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Jerick Player
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Greetings, I’ll keep this simple, time is coin. Raider And Trader here. I am here to offer my services to who may want/need/require them. I am that thief that strikes in the nite, I am that insufferable bastard who you just can’t shake. I won’t single-handedly win you any war, but rest assured *harassment* of the enemy, is maddening none-the-less. Will work with or without tags, terms of payment are based upon bounty value sell back of items looted. (Negotiated before contract agreement) |
| January 2, 2011 at 8:52 am #7765 | |
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catnips Player
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lol first all stealing has not been put in the game yet, and well money is more or less worthless but the idea maybe useful one day |
| January 2, 2011 at 8:52 am #7766 | |
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Werewolfe Player
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You’re jumping the gun, Jerick. PvE in the game is barely playable. PvP is a very long way away. |
| January 2, 2011 at 8:52 am #7767 | |
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Tablix Player
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not really pvp is very viable, but with the player base to sparsely populated using it as a focal point to your gaming will be futile for a while. |
| January 2, 2011 at 8:52 am #7768 | |
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Jerick Player
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I realize that the game is a tad behind in the curve for some features (for some people). I’ve played games which were *finished* which had far less playablity/features (while paying for it) than this game. Not really worried. There is plenty to do. Depriving others of resources *is* stealing (in a sense). Killing off city npc’s is maddening. City/asset destruction drives any clan mad. (Stealth works for what I’d need it for, invisibility is simply not required) So provided there are clan npc’s in player cities, or harvesters running, and clans still want to build stuff, then there is plenty for me to do. Again, Independent contractor, a handy-man of sorts, to take care of those sticky diplomatic situations; the reason, job, nor target matter. |
| January 2, 2011 at 8:52 am #7769 | |
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Cindyb Player
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Well first I want to salute you for such ideas and for putting yourself out there as you have, to create a toon that can actually be a threat will take a minuter or a weak or two lol , so that being said your in game persona will quickly become known. I think you will spend most of your time running from the factions warriors as we will most certainly put a price on your head. But none the less welcome to the virtual world of Dawntide.. |
| January 2, 2011 at 8:52 am #7770 | |
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Tablix Player
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I will hasten a guess that i will be on this persons hit list before too long, along with my respected colleague catnips. One problem I think anyone will find in this form of playstyle is aquiring the gear for the job, people in organised factions will happily be able to equip themselves in gleamsteal plate and weapons or silk and focus gear. As a solo pk you are going to need to be on a par at least or you are going to be destroyed pretty fast. I have had limited pvp play in DT and know how quick you ca kill people if you are prepared. With item decay you will need to replace gear over time too so you need to make sure the fight you are undertaking covers you costs, perhaps even demanding a full set of replica kit per target as well as a fee. I will go sharpen my uber sword of doom and polish my GS plate before logging in to mine later :D |
| January 2, 2011 at 8:52 am #7771 | |
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rabbandsterling Player
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Not to say PvP wont be a big part of this game but atm you would be wasting your time. Why? Well there are currently about 50 total different people that might log on to this game in a weeks time. Say at most 20 different people at one time. Now out of those 20 people about 50% or on starter island which is PvP free. Now the other 10 are scattered thoughout the rest of the lands. There is no instant travel so you have to run/swim everywhere. I could see you running 8 hours to find either 1 person or none at all. |
| January 2, 2011 at 8:52 am #7772 | |
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Jerick Player
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Nice to see…a reception. But I think there is a bit of a disconnect, personal hits (to pk) are rather silly and ill conceived. (Perhaps I just did not do enough to explain) Gotta love clan leaders though. Its all politics and posturing, rarely thinking of a bigger picture. I’m a businessman. The terms of my loyalties and services are clearly defined and prone to negotiation. (clear cut and dry, black and white, completely transparent so the contracting parties can see where it begins and ends, aka scope) Equipment is not entirely a problem, I don’t need the best to be effective ( If I’ve learned anything from DF and Eve never wear what you can’t afford to lose) – for every faction out there, there is always one which dislikes yours, and one which is always looking to supplant, one which wants revenge, and one which wants to cause you hassle and not have it traced back. That is where the employment will come from. Wars are not won thru killing alone (there are always more bodies), they are won thru economic attrition, and complacency. Allies are never earned, they are bought. Its always the one closest to you who hates you the most. Hits against players… It does little to advance (or hinder) a clan. (unless you are a resourcer) I seek only to assist and enhance one clan over another. However; should I get to the point that clans put out hits on me…well then I should take that as the highest compliment and seek to expand or diversify my model. My offer does not merely extend to clan leaders, but to individual clan members as well. For more information, you know how to reach me. I offer solutions. I’m not afraid to get creative with them. Edit: while I realize that Player base may not be high, and in most cases I will be running from 1 loc to another, I am looking to test out a few dynamics of this game, and report any bugs. (asset destruction, npc detection bugs, city access bugs) ooc: after playing DF and being a city builder in that game, drove me nuts how people could just jump over walls or log out facing east/log back in and be teleported into a city. (I keep that stuff from happening) I also want to make sure the singular war against a player works. (Drove me nuts when someone would siege hammer my city and I;d have no record of it) |
| January 2, 2011 at 8:52 am #7773 | |
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Tablix Player
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[quote=Jerick] Wars are not won thru killing alone (there are always more bodies), they are won thru economic attrition, and complacency. Allies are never earned, they are bought. Its always the one closest to you who hates you the most. [/quote] I think some of this was in response to my comments :D With regards to plants in factions, hell we have already had some, and guess what they changed sides when they saw what we had to offer, we are loyal trustworthy, honest and helpful…. pretty hard for someone to not to want to take advantage of something that in gaming terms is pretty priceless. And if you do want to infiltrate to gather information feel free to PM for an invite we have nothing to hide and share all our information willingly. Our allies are the community, without them the game dies. If the community want to be vengeful or jealous then they are welcome to try an d hamper our plans, but we will just plod along regardless. KoM is not infallible but we are also not easily stopped, we are not posturing or anything other than testing and sharing, anyone wanting to hinder our progress is just hurting the populous of the game. I know this post sounds confrontational, but so does your orignial thread and this is beta after all. I recognise the need for testing strategies, and i look forward to moniitoring your progress. In a live situation I think many may follow this play style but right now i think you are under-estimating both your opponents and some of the tasks you are planning to achieve. Buildings cannot be damaged by players, pvp is almost consencual as people can craft in safe zones. Once building decay is fully operational and seige mechanics are put in you will have much more scope to test your theories and put some real griefing into the equasion. If you want to run a mercenary lifestyle i think your best bet right now would be to gather and sell primary resources such as lumber or stone or ore in exchange for high quality weapons and armour to save for future use in your long term goal. I am really not against your concept just trying to be objectional and save you wasting lots of time on something that, IMO, is futile right now. Kindest regards |
| January 2, 2011 at 8:52 am #7774 | |
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Jerick Player
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HA! Ya proved me correct from the get go about politicians/clan leaders. You projected, and over reached, in assuming what my intent was, and became defensive. Allow me to correct you. 1st, what you alluded to is espionage…searching for information. I am not that…well…lazy. Base line intelligence is all you need to be a spy, or even some hack of a bank jacker. I am not looking to do any of that. I can honestly careless about one clan or another…as we all play for our own reasons. I honestly don’t care how you feel the community feels about you, nor how you think they feel about your clan, or even your dog. Or vice versa. Its immaterial. This thread was never about that nor for that. TO me, you and your clan or even your ally would just be another potential customer, entitled to the same privacy protections as anyone else would be. I’ve honestly never heard of you. Further more if you are concerned about this sounding confrontational…Umm well it is the tavern, how else would you like a handy-man intro himself? Perhaps dotting my “i”s with hearts may be more in line with your preferences, or shall I make more references to hugging unicorns? (sorry that was a cheap shot) This is not my first time kicking around a PVP, RVR, Sandbox MMO. You will always have those who make toons an art form. (min/maxers) They rarely last long. They move on to the next fotm. They focus more on body counts, death ratio’s and such. I don’t care about such stuff (It becomes more work than what its worth) This is also not the first time I’ve set out to do something along these lines. (only this time I will not be the magnanimous sole funder) Each game claims its different from the next. While its semi true, there are some very real constants. Knowing what they are and how to make use of them… At the end of the day it is all pixels. Besides Tablix, you have nothing to worry about from me…you after all have your clan, and the love of the community who would surely never sell you out. Which leads me to one projection…how long is it, till you hire me to deal with a rival clan. Looking forward to your business. |
| January 2, 2011 at 8:52 am #7775 | |
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Tablix Player
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I lol in your general direction. I am not a leader in any way shape of form. “OUR” faction has no leader, we work as a unit and have absolubtely no allegence to each other, except for the fact tht we wrok together and succeed. We dont moan when people leave, we welcome every new player. We equip and assist each other in the simple knowledge that its only a game, and we dont care if the next clan is bigger or badder or had more members or has achieved something we havent. I am not a min maxer either, well currently I am not even raising skills on my characters for a very specific reason, i am “testing” sometihng, I have done some min maxing and ubderstand skill and stat gain probably better than 95% of the population. I know that sounds a little arrogant but maybe you should research a little before making assumptions about my personality and objectives, try clicking my name and bringing up my user profile then have a browse of my forum activity and my submitted bug reports. I am not a gamer, i am a TESTER, and I do take a slight affront to your accusatory manner when i have been trying to offer you advice, when it is quite obvious i have far more experience of this sandbox than you do, that is not saying i am better or more intelligent or anythingg else so please dont twist my words again to make me out to be something i am not. I am not a PK, I am not even a pvp fan, I am more CASUAL than most people in fact i like to experience games not look for the I WIN combination of moves or character builds. I dont seek wealth or glory just fun with my comrades, if that means i have to fight alongside them to defend myslef or my allies I will do it but I am just as happy mining alone in a mountain peak watching the birds shadows :D I will not be your employer for the simple reason you have not yet adverised a service that i have a need for, I am perfectly cabaple of trolling all by myself and in game i can achieve friendships without anyones help. If you want to spy, or pk or grief thats all fine but i really was offering you advice about how you can achieve it and the levels of success you will get in the beta in its current state. Please try to refrain from shooting the messenger, he maybe holding the information you want in his head :D |
| January 2, 2011 at 8:52 am #7776 | |
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Jerick Player
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Projecting projecting projecting. Going to keep this short. Again, I can careless about your faction, or anyone else’s. I care more about buildings, npcs, certain features which this game listed it would put into place for guild dynamics (in terms of conquest and laws) Regardless if those specifics are fully implemented or not, getting into a position to test, helps to discover bugs. Not that I am doing anything original or revolutionary, but I may find something you simply haven’t. Esp since its not in your self described play-style. A fresh set of eyes. But no, you don’t see it that way, do you…You inserted yourself into this thread, you’ve offered nothing in terms of advice aside from the obligatory: need funding/gear. Gee ya think? I guess its gotta be all about you. You decided to take offense at this thread. Your only credentials you list is your post count, and honestly that doesn’t impress me. I would go thru and read them, but I honestly don’t have time to read up on every utterance and posturing you feel is important. I was pretty concise on what mechanics I was looking to test. Now if I want to add a dark tone to it, hey, I did it in the right forum. I’m done dealing with you. |
| January 2, 2011 at 8:52 am #7777 | |
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catnips Player
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lol Tabby he is nothing more than a griefer and a con artist and a bad one at that. he is in hopes of pitting folks aganst each other so he can clean up. Or maybe this is a new way of coming into the game and begging for a handout. well i tell ya what slick you can find me alot of the time hanging around the bank, come see me and ill give ya few coins, Iam a soft touch always willing to give the homeless the change in my pocket. |
| January 2, 2011 at 8:52 am #7778 | |
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Tablix Player
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troll troll trollalolalol Please please please read some of my posts you may learn something. I come from a faction that has built every building in game countelss times, even the ones that dont work, even now. We have tested every recipe with every material type and we understand how the mechanics work. You have been here a few week perhaps at most and are now lecturing me about what I do and do not know, I find this not only amusing but also a little juvanile even though your understanding of the english language certainly shows you are not entirely stupid. See I can be respectful of you as a person, yet I wont slip to insulting you, I just think you lack understanding of this game in its current beta state and I am trying to help you. As to my post count, yes its huge… I am a good troll not a bad one. I post advice, help, information, test results, bug reports, opinion and everything in between yet never ever try to insult someones personality or intelligence. I work WITH the dev team on a voluntary basis doing the dirty work that some people wont do because they are busy looking for personal gain. I feel quite honesty that I am respected not only by the community in general but also by the people making this game, maybe not all of my opinions are agreed with but I have the dignity not to retort in personal attacks. Debate is one thing I encourage, stupid childish behaviour in not. I have frequently tried to settle personl arguments between other forums users and worked as a negotiater in terms of making people get on. I am working for the long term good of the project and if that means I have to upset a few along the way by telling people things they dont want to hear then so be it. I am a reasonable guy, sometime far to much so. I will not take offence to your ignorance of how i am trying to help you. If perhaps you did some research into the beta and how it is currently, rather than relying on the official line of features intended “at release”, you may be a valuable tester to add to the community. I honestly believe you want to take part and be constructive, but I am just trying to point out that lots of those feature simply arent there yet or working so you cannot test them or the desired playstyle you described throught your thread. Please take this as constructive criticism not an attempt to insult you, I am not that kind of guy and I understand how easy it is to be misunderstood or taken out of context on a forum. I am honestly trying to save you time, I will even offer to discus a way of working towards your goal for testing when the features you desire become available. There is an ongoing thread regarding player input in seige mechanics that is probably of interest to you, and your input would be very welcomed. Seige and faction wars are still pretty conceptual right now so your input could result in direct change to the plans before they are put into the game. I hope that clarifies my intentions, I was not trying to hijack your thread or to advertise how wonderful i am just merely trying to point out you may want to do some reading before investing lots of hours training skills to find out you cant do what you wanted to do. I appologise for bad english but I am struggling to read and type lately it is my native languae but unfortunately by body and mind are on an alternate plane of existence right now |
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